tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post400408172100907770..comments2023-06-28T06:15:31.032-06:00Comments on Just Marlene, A Follower of Jesus Christ: Book of Mormon Geography: Defining ZARAHEMLAMarlene Newellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-4421830091261775372010-12-25T17:20:00.994-07:002010-12-25T17:20:00.994-07:00Hey Marlene,
This is a pretty complex subject is...Hey Marlene,<br /> This is a pretty complex subject isn't it. Even the geography may have changed a little at the time of Christ's coming. I like the way you reason it out. I don't quite understand why you rule out a more northern river, like the san-pedro, as there are mesoamerican cities in a group up there which match up pretty well with the BofM esp in the peten region. They have the correct age and features; highways connecting, fortifications,(Becan) temples. The temples within the correct era include those called 'triadic'. These may not match so well artists interpretations of Solomons temple but if you compare the drawing of 'El Tigre' triadic complex at El Mirador with drawings of the plan of the great temple Ezekiel saw in vision, the similarities are numerous, down to the masks on the walls, some of which are quite intriguing as they show obvious pierced palms. They find evidence there also of an Israelite custom of bloodletting, it's not a Christian practice, but was well known to Lehi's people leaving Jerusalem when Israel was about to go into captivity because of their idol worshiping, its part of that, eg 1 Kings 18:28.<br /> Mark Parker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-5838062311364803832009-05-01T17:18:00.000-06:002009-05-01T17:18:00.000-06:00Eva, I am totally unfamiliar with this saying, so ...Eva, I am totally unfamiliar with this saying, so I do not know to whom it is credited.<br /><br />I'm not discounting what you are saying, but I always thought of the people from Scotland and that whole general area as being descendants of the 10 Lost Tribes -- no authority to back me up, just my own thoughts.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-81489950709301974432009-05-01T09:34:00.000-06:002009-05-01T09:34:00.000-06:00A person from the church I don't rememeber which P...A person from the church I don't rememeber which President said this but he said that some or most people from Scotland are the descendent from the Nephites who left after so much war and never went back. Who said it? Does anyone know?<br />EvaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-44573350048214990452008-12-28T12:40:00.000-07:002008-12-28T12:40:00.000-07:00Thank you for your very thought provoking contribu...Thank you for your very thought provoking contribution. I agree totally with your analysis -- however, many are looking at the Mayan sites as evidence of the Nephite cities, and I wanted to point out that some "could be" but the majority of them just don't fit the geographic descriptions in the Book of Mormon. You very well pointed out that they don't fit the cultural descriptions, either, or the timeline.<BR/><BR/>thanks again . . .<BR/><BR/>My theory goes on to suggest the location of the key cities in the Book of Mormon war chronicles.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-12431493306610810182008-12-28T01:11:00.000-07:002008-12-28T01:11:00.000-07:00"Several Maya ruins along the river would be candi..."Several Maya ruins along the river would be candidates for key cities in ZARAHEMLA. However, many Maya ruins would be eliminated as key cities in ZARAHEMLA and the lands along ZARAHEMLA’s east coast are problematic."<BR/><BR/>While I appreciate the difficulty of what you are attempting to do here, it seems to me that this kind of reasoning is faulty. Matching Nephite sites to Mayan sites seems irrelevant to me. The Classical Mayans cannot be the Nephites, the well-established dates are wrong. The Nephites would parallel the Pre-classical Mayan period. <BR/><BR/>Here is a chronological chart and further down the page is a timeline.<BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_chronology<BR/><BR/>If the Nephites were among the Pre-Classical Mayans, there is no particular reason that later peoples (Mayans)would necessarily use ritual centers abandoned by Nephites. Mayan temples have always impressed me more as something like a Rameumpton than a temple. I'm not sure if temples after the manner of Solomon would leave much footprint.<BR/><BR/>It has always been interesting to me how well Olmec and other early cultures parallel the Jaredite story. Even the Nephite dates parallel major events in Mayan development. However, as we learn more about these civilizations, if we can't find a place for the Jaredites and the Nephites among these cultures, we need to consider different settings no matter how well we thinks the geography fits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-33955237796460165312008-08-22T00:19:00.000-06:002008-08-22T00:19:00.000-06:00I served my mission in southern Honduras, Teguciga...I served my mission in southern Honduras, Tegucigalpa, and everything south. I love this stuff... I've been back to Guatemala a few times and cannot wait to visit Copan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-33726462696269302042008-06-06T08:48:00.000-06:002008-06-06T08:48:00.000-06:00I will answer that question when I discuss the mas...I will answer that question when I discuss the massive migrations before and after the time of Christ, and the flight of the Nephites after the time of Christ.Marlene Newellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776470021880189163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6957529521802584957.post-76688115625864353832008-06-05T22:30:00.000-06:002008-06-05T22:30:00.000-06:00If Cumorah was in New York and Zarahemla in Mesoam...If Cumorah was in New York and Zarahemla in Mesoamerica, how did Moroni bury the plates at Cumorah?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com